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Experiential Listening Vasudeva listened with great attention. It was one of the ferryman’s greatest virtues that, like few people, he knew how to listen... the speaker felt that Vasudeva took in every word, quietly, expectantly, that he missed nothing... He did not await anything with impatience and gave neither praise nor blame--he only listened... SiddhExperientialartha felt how wonderful it was to have such a listener who could be absorbed in another’s life... Experiential listening is listening to the not-yet fully articulated felt sense from which a speaker is talking. It comes out of a combination of Eugene Gendlin’s philosophical work and Carl Rogers’ reflection of feeling response. It is a precise specification of what person-centered listeners (and many other therapists) ought to be listening for. This paper explores first the historical development of experiential listening and then goes very specifically into how I listen in an experiential way. The paper ends with a paean to experiential listening. Key words: listening, experiential. experiencing. reflecting, therapist activities . Therapists listen. Many of us listen well. Some of us do not listen as well as we think we do. There is a special form of listening – experiential listening – that can help us all be more effective listeners. Experiential listening is an empathic, supportive, non-interfering way of saying back to a person the felt essence of his or her message and checking with the person to make sure it has been said back correctly. Experiential listening helps people clarify and articulate their inner processes, explore issues, get past stuck places, and carry their experiencing forward. It is useful both for non-professional help and professional therapy. Listening helps people focus. Put simply: The person being listened to says something. The listener takes the person’s whole expression inside, listens to its resonance, and then says back words that point towards the felt sense that has been communicated. Then the listener checks with the listenee; did I get that right? If yes, the listenee goes on to whatever he or she has next to say. If not, the listenee corrects the listener, who then tries again to say it just right. The entire process--”saying back” and “checking in”--is experiential listening. To illustrate: consider the following listening I did with a very practiced 45-year-old male client. In parentheses I point out the felt sense and felt shift as they occur.
As the example shows, experiential listening is a close and careful being with whatever is “inside” a person (“Beneath the sad and slumped, anger lives”), letting oneself be corrected (“No. Sitting in me, not on me”), and thus allowing the “inside” to shift (“The words come in a torrent now... “). Listening is a way of helping a person contact a felt sense, a way of keeping a felt sense company, and a way of saying it back in such a way that one’s words have an experiential effect; they permit a felt shift to happen (Gendlin, 1981). Listening is useful both in therapy and in non-professional helping (e.g., between friends, spouses, parents and children). Receiving good listening is a powerful, effective, and, for most people, unusual experience. People seldom get to hear back what it is they are groping to express. It is a rare treat to be listened to by someone such as Siddhartha’s ferryman who wants you to have the experience of really feeling understood. Everyone deserves the experience of really being listened to. If you have not had it, you don’t know what you are missing! History Experiential listening is an offspring of the union between Carl Rogers’ “reflection of feeling” therapeutic response and Eugene Gendlin’s “experiential method.” It can be called “an experiential reformulation of active listening.” It deserves to be recognized as one of the latest steps in the evolution of client-centered therapy into the person-centered approach (Levant & Shlein, 1984) “Saying back” is the quintessential helping response in the client-centered tradition of therapy. It has been called variously “reflection of feelings,” “clarification of feelings” (Snyder, 1947), “active listening” (Gordon, 1970) and, simply, “listening” (Gendlin, 1981).
Rogers was a remarkable listener. An excellent sample of his listening style is this excerpt from his work with “Mrs. Oak.” In her thirty-first therapy session Mrs. Oak is trying to describe a feeling as it wells up in her:
It would be difficult to overstate Rogers’ role in the history of psychotherapy. His client-centered listening and the philosophy of relationship in which it is embedded changed the course of counseling and therapy. There is a “before Rogers” and an “after Rogers” psychotherapy. But Rogers’ listening is better than his theory of listening. He did it better than he describes it. There has always been a gap in his theoretical writings about listening. It has been mostly unclear just exactly what a “reflection” is supposed to reflect. This is where Gendlin and his theory of experiencing come in. Gendlin says:
Gendlin’s point is that the words “message” and “feelings” are but an imprecise and sometimes misleading shorthand. What they stand for is “unclear but sensed experience.” This is the true referent of the reflection of feelings response. The concept of “experiencing” and the experiential method specify the referent of the reflection of feelings response more exactly. Gendlin says that there is an ongoing flow of experiencing in the human being. He refers to this as a bodily felt but conceptually vague flow of felt meanings (Gendlin, 1962& 1981). The listening response is an attempt to make contact with and carry forward this experiential flow. It is not enough for the therapist to just say back the client’s words. Words are not feelings. The listener is trying to point his words at the concrete experiential flow for which the listenee is making symbols (words). The listenee checks the listener’s words against this ongoing flow. When the listening response is just right, it has an experiential effect--the flow of experiencing is carried forward. In his last writing on empathy, Rogers acknowledged his debt to Gendlin and made Gendlin’s sometimes abstruse philosophical writing more accessible via clinical example:
In other words, listening responses are offered in such a way that they point the listenee in the direction of checking the response (anger?... dissatisfaction?... disappointment!) in a focusing way against his/her experiential flow. In sum, client-centered listening was a method developed by Carl Rogers in response to clinical exigencies. It has produced an abundance of practice and research. It has lacked a grounding in a philosophy of experiencing. Gendlin provides that philosophy. The listener points his response at the felt sense of the listenee. The listenee checks that response against his ongoing experiential flow. If it is accurate, the flow moves forward to a next step. If it is not, the listenee corrects the listener, who then tries again. This is experiential listening. How I Do It Using the imprecise language of “feelings,” Rogers warns that feelings’ and `reflecting’ them is a vastly complex process.” (1980, p. 138) To this I can only add--Amen. What follows is my attempt to describe how I do listening. I was at first tempted to call this section “How to Listen” but discarded that title for the less grandiose “How I Listen.” It is as far as I can tell a specification of what I do when I am listening. Others’ descriptions exist (Cornell, 1993; Gendlin, 1974, 1981; McGuire,1981). The reader is invited to compare and contrast. I begin by quieting my mind and turning my full attention towards the person to whom I am listening. There are two steps: quieting the mind; intending towards the speaker. First I note whether my mind needs quieting. I do this usually by practicing the first step of focusing. Before my client arrives I close my eyes. I sit comfortably, breathe, and ask myself, “How am I from the inside right now?” I let my attention come down into my body and, in a friendly way, roam or scan around and see what is there. I ask if there is a word, phrase, or image that matches the feeling inside. About seventy-five percent of the time nowadays I get a word like “clear,” “calm,” “meditative,” “open,” “ready.” I sit with that feeling for a moment and then go to the waiting room to get my client. The other twenty-five percent of the time I get: I need to do the “clearing a space” step of focusing. I usually put out on the imaginary bench an inventory of what is in the way for me, what is between me and feeling “ready to listen.” Most often there will be one or more recent disturbances and perhaps a chronic nagging place in the way. For example, right now I have a pain in my back, left-over anger from this morning, and some weariness inside. By identifying the trouble spots, giving them a moment’s quiet attention, and then promising them I will come back and work on them if need be--they agree to mostly clear. I only listen when I’m mostly clear. Notice that “mostly”. Don’t make these guidelines into absolutes. I have done good listening while a background upset was not completely resolved. I have done good listening while images from basketball and soccer games danced in the back of my head. There can be background noise in the receiver while one is listening: There cannot be foreground noise. When we begin to develop the habit of consciously clearing a space, we start to recognize how unclear we tend to be. Many of us much of the time and all of us some of the time are distracted, scattered, not truly attentive, formulating our next point while the other is speaking, drifting off, preoccupied, anxious, angry, defensive, rebutting, interpreting, judging, etc. We are not truly present. We have internal chatter going on. We are not one-pointed (Schuster, 1979). The receiver is partly jammed. There is static. We have anxiety, fear, guilt, worry, anger, self-protection, interfering with good contact. When any of these are happening for you, get listened to yourself. Get listened to about your own barriers and obstacles to good contact with people in general and with each particular person (client) in your life. Know what it feels like inside when you are clear. Know what it feels like when you are unclear. Know the difference and ways to get from the one state to the other. A quiet mind helps one listen. Keep working on quieting your mind. Getting mostly clear is only the first step. From that same space of clarity I can write articles, make decisions in my life, make love, etc. Step two is to bend myself toward the speaker lovingly. I have emptied my mind. I have become receptive--an open channel. Now I `turn’ towards the speaker. I let my whole body express this “turning towards.” I make eye contact. I turn my posture in the direction of the person I am to listen to. I lean a little forward. I look inviting and non-intrusive My body expresses, “I am here to listen to you.” I take in the whole of the person to whom I am listening. This is a global or holistic “grokking” of the person. I let my “presence” hear his or her “presence.” My whole being is listening to his or her whole being.
Narrowness of listening is avoided by this step. When I fail to attend to this step, I may miss the larger message being lived by the person at this moment. Sometimes I just do this step naturally. Some days I am very tuned in to this level with people. When I am not, it is good to silently remind myself by asking inside, “What is this person’s being expressing right now? What is the background feeling from which he or she is speaking? What is the general feeling I have inside as he or she walks in?” It is worthwhile to remember that people always speak from within feeling states. There is an implicit richness behind every statement one makes. Not everything is or can be made explicit. Often the person is unaware of this background state. So I step back, figuratively speaking, and take in a mural sense of the person, attending to the whole feel of his being. I do this even if I don’t make explicit use of the information right away, It is part of tuning into the person being listened to: I am doing a therapy demonstration for a class. She volunteers. She sits down across from me. I observe her eyes: large, open, clear. I take in her erect posture, her bearing, a certain grace in her manner. I hear inside myself the words: `She is very open and vulnerable, undefended. Just listen to her words very exactly.’ I do. She quickly opens up, goes deep, cries, resolves a problem and feels better. I reflect back to the person the whole felt essence of what I `hear’ him or her saying. I would not say all of this, of course, but the experience inside me might be: “Sitting here and emptying myself, I turn my full loving attention toward you. I take in your posture--sitting on the edge of the chair, `bug-eyed,’ a tic in your cheek, a haltingness in your speech. I hear you say you have a final exam tomorrow and feel unprepared. I say back: “So is there some fear, or worry, or concern in you about the final you don’t feel prepared for?” Let me elaborate upon this “saying back” step: For every “unit of meaning” I make words that reflect back to the person my best understanding of what he or she is experiencing.
Reflection ought to be fairly frequent. There is no absolute rule. In learning listening, it is best to do reflections more frequently; as your listening becomes more naturally a part of you, you may want to do it less frequently. It is important to take in only as much as you can hold before reflecting. This amount will vary with your experience level, memory span, and the way your listenee speaks: Scattered speech is harder to hold than connected speech. My reflections point toward the felt sense. There are three different possibilities concerning the relationship between words and felt sense. Sometimes the listenee’s words exactly reflect the felt sense. When this happens, the listener says these words back almost exactly:
Notice that this is not how people usually talk. More often, the listenee’s words only hint at, suggest, partially express, or approximate the felt sense. They are around or near it. The listener augments these words by making use of whatever else he is picking up from the listenee’s non-verbal expressions and whatever else he may guess about the felt sense: “ It is not enough [in this case] to simply say back the content being said. It is also essential to reflect back any unsaid feelings from the person’s tone of voice... her body posture, facial expressions, and gestures... and your own guesses at what a person in her situation might be feeling...
In the following example, notice how the therapist makes use of non-verbal cues and her own imagining of the situation described and thus helps the client into the felt sense:
Finally, sometimes the listenee’s words ignore or obscure the felt sense. Words and felt sense may be like two trains traveling on parallel and non-intersecting tracks. The listenee may know nothing about words coming from felt senses. The listener then imagines the felt sense that might be there and points at it. More use is made of the non-verbal and the holistic “grokking” than of the verbal productions:
It is important for the listener to recognize where on this continuum a person’s verbalization is coming from. “Is this particular word or phrase coming from a felt sense?” The listener needs to develop the kind of sensitivity which can answer that question. Remember that what the listener is attempting to do is make contact with the experiential flow in the client. When words are coming from this flow, saying them back fairly exactly and with intonation, rhythm, etc. that reflect the client’s will help make contact with that flow. Words that don’t come from this flow are not treated in the same way as words that do come from this flow. Words and the way they are said are clues to the person’s felt process. Some clues are better than others. The good listener comes to know which words best point to the felt sense. Noting where an expression comes from helps guide one as to whether to say something back exactly or paraphrase it--one of the important decisions to be made in listening. A good rule of thumb is to say back almost exactly those words that either match or come from very close to the felt sense and paraphrase the rest. Clients often say many words that tell the story of external events and few words that describe the felt sense of these events. This is especially so in the early part of therapy. It is the therapist’s task to briefly summarize the story of the external events and then highlight the felt sense words. For example:
Similarly, a long account of an unhappy vacation was paraphrased, “The trip was unpleasant, and you were disappointed.” A detailed description of an argument between two brothers became, “You two fought and it makes you sad and angry.” The same principle applies when the felt sense is not so clearly articulated. The therapist pays special attention here. By pointing his or her reflection at the unclear felt sense, the therapist helps the client grapple with it and become more clear:
Notice that the story-line is downplayed and the client’s emphasized feeling word (twisted) is reflected exactly. As Gendlin says, “Therapists can paraphrase most of what a client says, but are wise to keep crucially charged words the same. We might paraphrase a long story... But if the client uses the word `apprehensive,’ we would not change it to `scared’ or `worried’ because then the client might lose hold of the connotation that word right now holds. Such a word can be a `handle’ that helps us hold onto a whole suitcase.” (Gendlin, 1984, p. 86) I vary the way I say things back. Good listening has variety to it. It is creative. It holds the listenee’s attention. A steady diet of ‘it sounds like you are saying’ becomes repitious, tinny, parrot-like, and artificial. It may put the listenee off. Therefore, I sometimes affirm my reflection declaratively. Sometimes I offer it as a question tentatively. Sometimes I ‘become the other’ as in psychodramatic doubling and say my reflection as though I were he. Sometimes I do use a ‘sounds like you are saying’ lead-in. Sometimes I embellish a reflection by saying the feeling words that had not been said. Sometimes I pare down and sum up an over-stuffed statement. Sometimes I rearrange the words in a reflection so as to highlight the felt sense. Sometimes I add emphasis to sharpen up the feeling tone of a statement. In the following excerpt I identify in parentheses the several different ways I say things back:
A listening response aims to be evocative... It wants to be vivid. Connotative language (imagery, metaphor, analogy) helps `spark’ the felt sense; it resonates with the ongoing experiencing process. Therefore, I use imagery, metaphor, and analogy in my listening responses. Consider these examples: First, two from Rogers:
Imagery should be tailored to the vocabulary and interests of the client. Metaphors are personal worlds. Seldom would I quote baseball to a ballerina. The image is fit to the person, not vice versa. For example, in working with an ardent Zionist I did the following reflection:
(Whereas with a baseball enthusiast I might have said, “I’m ready for the Big Leagues. Don’t send me back to the minors!”) It helps considerably when therapist and client share a metaphorical realm in which they can communicate vividly and as if in shorthand:
Metaphors and analogies related to the client’s spheres of interest (sometimes not yet mentioned in therapy) will come spontaneously to the therapist when he or she is especially well-tuned in to the client:
After I offer a reflection, I watch and listen to the listenee’s reaction, and I am guided by it. I am explicitly or implicitly asking the listenee to check my reflection against his or her felt sense. I will discuss three possibilities here: (1) The client doesn’t check the reflection against the felt sense. (2) The client checks it, and it is correct. (3) The client checks it, and it is incorrect. My invitation to the client to check my reflection may be either verbal or non-verbal. If I don’t sense that the listenee is doing such checking, I explicitly ask that he or she do so. I sense “not-checking” from the client’s continuing to talk rapidly, lack of change of expression on her face, a sense in me that I have not been taken inside, that I have been ignored. When this happens I want to slow up the interaction and explicitly invite her to check my reflection against her felt sense:
When I sense that my client is checking my reflection inside, I watch and listen for tell-tale signs of whether or not she feels understood. I watch her face, her breathing. Being accurately heard leads to a relaxation. I look to see whether there are signs of that relaxation. Being accurately heard leads to a something new, a sense of further exploration. I listen to whether the next thing said indicates a going further. Conversely, being inaccurately heard leads to signs of annoyance: a grimace, a squeezing up of the face, a raised eyebrow. Being inaccurately heard leads to the person saying the same thing over again or changing the subject abruptly and staying at a superficial level. When my client does not feel understood, I drop my previous reflection, let myself be corrected, and try again: For example:
“Checking-in” is as crucial to experiential listening as is “reflecting.” Without checking-in, therapy can go off-track:
Checking-in allows even wrong reflections to be useful, helpful, not destructive. The therapist’s `off-ness’ is quickly and easily corrected. The therapist does not lead the client into blind alleys--often, the therapist’s blind alleys. There are two guidelines here: intend to be accurate, and be correctable. Checking-in takes a burden off the therapist. It is not necessary that your listening always be `right.’ It is necessary that you try to make it `right,’ sometimes succeed, and that you are not ego-attached to your reflections. Sometimes I demonstrate this last point by saying a reflection in such a way that it requires correction..
I am happy to be corrected. My ego isn’t hung-up on being `right.’ I readily drop my reflection and follow the correction. Being listened to drives this home to me over and over again. A `wrong’ reflection can help me clarify what it was I was trying to say. It can help my self-exploration process. Feeling its `wrongness’ leads me to find words that would be more right. It will only get in my way if you insist on it. If you are willing--nay, eager--to drop it, then I can move on. I find this one of the most difficult things to teach about listening. Especially to therapists. Many therapists feel that they have to get it right. And many feel that they are always right. I remember telling a therapist that at age four I was cutting a string on my teddy bear, and the knife went into my eye, leading to a traumatic hospitalization and operation. He said, “That was masochism.” I stared at him. He was shaking his head affirmatively, agreeing with himself. I said, “How can you be so sure?” He said, dismissively, “I’m sure.” His own certainty meant more to him than my hint at doubt. After a few examples of such kinds of intervention on his part, I went elsewhere. It helps to remember: Listening shows the therapist’s intent is to understand. Unconditional positive regard is carried by that intent. The energy exchange goes something like this: The client sees the therapist leaning toward him. The client feels hopeful: “Oh boy. It may happen here, I may be understood.” When the therapist is wrong, the client starts to fade, to withdraw, to be deflated. Hope may be dashed. But then the therapist notices the withdrawal. He asks, “Did I get that wrong?” “May I try again?” The client feels hope returning. He may have been too shy, too used to being misunderstood to initiate the correction. But now he responds to the therapist’s recognition that he has misunderstood. The client tries again. He tries harder to be understandable in response to the therapist’s well-intentioned effort to understand and his willingness to be corrected. Hope returns--so long as listening is successful part of the time and the therapist/listener improves after being corrected. Hence, the crucial guideline: Don’t be attached to your reflection. In sum, here are my basic guidelines for listening:
Thus far in this essay I have endeavored to be specific, precise, and analytical about where listening comes from and how I do it. Now I want to go deeper. Having engaged your head I ultimately want to speak about the heart. That is where listening is most appreciated. Listening helps open the heart. Let me share with you the occasion for this realization: Listen, listen, listen The Opening The Heart Workshop (1996) begins with the group singing these words. I’ve heard them hundreds of times now. But one day I heard them a little differently. I was working on this essay and I was stuck for a conclusion. I kept hearing the words, “Listen, listen, listen/To my heart’s song” over and over. Then my conclusion came to me: Someplace inside, someplace deep inside, we all want someone to listen to our heart’s song. We want to sing an aria of our pain, a ballad of our love, a medley of our anger, hurt, sadness, joy. We want to give voice to what is inside each and every one of us: the particular ways we have been blessed and hurt by life. We all long to be heard. But mostly our songs stay inside, shut up. We move our lips, but we don’t sing our songs. We peek out each from our own cubby hole. We have walls, masks, moats, gates, fogs, secret chambers, secret police to protect our innermost places. Why? Because we have all been hurt by life. They weren’t there. They didn't listen. They were wrapped up in themselves. They told us not to be so sensitive. They told us to act appropriately. They ''fixed" things. They yelled at us. They abused us. Listening is the antidote. Listening is an invitation to me to sing my song. Being heard helps undo the hurt. When I feel listened to I feel better. I feel heard, seen, kept company, understood. I feel less alone. I feel supported. I feel like I have an ally. I feel the way a team feels when it has a good cheerleading section. I feel more clear. I feel calm, peaceful, meditative, energized. My battery has been charged. The problem may be no different--for now. But I am different. My heart is more open. So remember this about experiential listening: it is a way for one person to really get with and be with another person. The particular specifics of technique are not as important as is this overall effect. How do I know whether I’m doing it right? I know it by your having the experience of really feeling understood.
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